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		<title>By: Frugal Confessions</title>
		<link>http://www.theamateurfinancier.com/blog/deep-thoughts-tipping/#comment-2185</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 12:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.theamateurfinancier.com/blog/deep-thoughts-tipping/#comment-1780</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alice: It&#039;s distressing (although not too surprising) that people would dine out and only have enough money to cover the meal and not the tip as well.  The story you shared is very sweet, and a good example of how people should behave when dining out.

@Eric: It sounds like you have a very good policy on tipping.  If there&#039;s something I knew for certain was the waitress&#039;s fault, I&#039;d consider tipping less (although, even then, with the prevalence of pooling tips, I&#039;d be a bit reluctant to hurt the income of the hard-working wait staff).

@Joe: It&#039;s worth remembering tipping and the importance thereof.  To say nothing of generosity in general.

@MJ: Double tipping is a serious risk, now that many restaurants add tips to group bills &#039;for your convenience&#039;.  It&#039;s something you need to keep an eye on to avoid double-tipping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alice: It&#8217;s distressing (although not too surprising) that people would dine out and only have enough money to cover the meal and not the tip as well.  The story you shared is very sweet, and a good example of how people should behave when dining out.</p>
<p>@Eric: It sounds like you have a very good policy on tipping.  If there&#8217;s something I knew for certain was the waitress&#8217;s fault, I&#8217;d consider tipping less (although, even then, with the prevalence of pooling tips, I&#8217;d be a bit reluctant to hurt the income of the hard-working wait staff).</p>
<p>@Joe: It&#8217;s worth remembering tipping and the importance thereof.  To say nothing of generosity in general.</p>
<p>@MJ: Double tipping is a serious risk, now that many restaurants add tips to group bills &#8216;for your convenience&#8217;.  It&#8217;s something you need to keep an eye on to avoid double-tipping.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubled tipped today and am upset by that fact. We had a group all with separate bills. I left a tip for my bill and walking to car doing some calculating I figured a group gratuity had to have been added to reach total paid. So in effect I tipped twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubled tipped today and am upset by that fact. We had a group all with separate bills. I left a tip for my bill and walking to car doing some calculating I figured a group gratuity had to have been added to reach total paid. So in effect I tipped twice.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Plemon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the well thought out &quot;deep thought&quot; on tipping.
I am naturally a tight-wad, so tipping is a good discipline for me to work on being a bit more generous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the well thought out &#8220;deep thought&#8221; on tipping.<br />
I am naturally a tight-wad, so tipping is a good discipline for me to work on being a bit more generous.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since my eye opening two months as a server in a local restaurant, I use 18%-20% as a baseline.  I usually round up generously.  However, for bad service that is directly because of the server, I have no qualms tipping much lower.
.-= Eric´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/narrowbridge/~3/h6mCxoT0Ves/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ask The Readers: Student Loan or Savings&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since my eye opening two months as a server in a local restaurant, I use 18%-20% as a baseline.  I usually round up generously.  However, for bad service that is directly because of the server, I have no qualms tipping much lower.<br />
.-= Eric´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/narrowbridge/~3/h6mCxoT0Ves/" rel="nofollow">Ask The Readers: Student Loan or Savings</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a waitress so I am a little biased. In the recent economic times, my only pet peeve at work is people who come in to a restaurant to eat, can&#039;t afford it or the tip and will straight up tell you that the service was great but they don&#039;t have enough to tip. Hence I changed to fine dining, people who tend to dine there don&#039;t have financial troubles. After all I am just trying to pay the bills and afford grad school. Found this on the net recently: 

Many years ago, a 10-year-old boy walked up to the counter of a soda shop and climbed onto a stool. He caught the eye of the waitress and asked, “How much is an ice cream sundae?”
“Fifty cents,” the waitress replied. The boy reached into his pockets, pulled out a handful of change, and began counting. The waitress frowned impatiently. After all, she had other customers to wait on.
The boy squinted up at the waitress. “How much is a dish of plain ice cream?” he asked. The waitress sighed and rolled her eyes. “Thirty-five cents,” she said with a note of irritation.
Again, the boy counted his coins. At last, he said, “I’ll have the plain ice cream, please.” He put a quarter and two nickels on the counter. The waitress took the coins, brought the ice cream, and walked away.
About ten minutes later, she returned and found the ice cream dish empty. The boy was gone. She picked up the empty dish—then swallowed hard.
There on the counter, next to the wet spot where the dish had been, were two nickels and five pennies. The boy had had enough for a sundae, but he had ordered plain ice cream so he could leave her a tip.
- source: Mr. Little John’s Secrets to a Lifetime of Success</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a waitress so I am a little biased. In the recent economic times, my only pet peeve at work is people who come in to a restaurant to eat, can&#8217;t afford it or the tip and will straight up tell you that the service was great but they don&#8217;t have enough to tip. Hence I changed to fine dining, people who tend to dine there don&#8217;t have financial troubles. After all I am just trying to pay the bills and afford grad school. Found this on the net recently: </p>
<p>Many years ago, a 10-year-old boy walked up to the counter of a soda shop and climbed onto a stool. He caught the eye of the waitress and asked, “How much is an ice cream sundae?”<br />
“Fifty cents,” the waitress replied. The boy reached into his pockets, pulled out a handful of change, and began counting. The waitress frowned impatiently. After all, she had other customers to wait on.<br />
The boy squinted up at the waitress. “How much is a dish of plain ice cream?” he asked. The waitress sighed and rolled her eyes. “Thirty-five cents,” she said with a note of irritation.<br />
Again, the boy counted his coins. At last, he said, “I’ll have the plain ice cream, please.” He put a quarter and two nickels on the counter. The waitress took the coins, brought the ice cream, and walked away.<br />
About ten minutes later, she returned and found the ice cream dish empty. The boy was gone. She picked up the empty dish—then swallowed hard.<br />
There on the counter, next to the wet spot where the dish had been, were two nickels and five pennies. The boy had had enough for a sundae, but he had ordered plain ice cream so he could leave her a tip.<br />
- source: Mr. Little John’s Secrets to a Lifetime of Success</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.theamateurfinancier.com/blog/deep-thoughts-tipping/#comment-1679</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 02:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Monevator: I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever heard tipping compared to capitalism at large, although as you say, they do have some similar characteristics.  I&#039;m not really sure how tipping caught on (my research for this entry revealed that &#039;gratuity&#039; means &#039;for the bartender&#039; or something similar, indicating that the practice started in taverns, but how and why it spread to restaurants (and beyond) is still a mystery to me).  There is quite a discrepancy between various locales and how much you&#039;re expected to tip, that much is true.

@1milchallenge: I&#039;m definitely envious of your non-tipping culture; I&#039;d be much happier (albeit, with a bit less to write about) if tipping weren&#039;t part of the culture here in the US.  If you are in the US, you get used to calculating the tip in most of the common tipping situations (or find guides to how much to tip are pretty common).

@Jackie: It does seem to be all but assumed that you will leave a tip, as part of the cost of going out.  You&#039;re like me; I try to tip better (in excess of fifteen percent or so) if the service is great, and I have a personal rule about leaving at least three dollars for a tip, even it means giving a thirty percent tip on a low cost meal.

@PureFi: That seems to be the consensus view; nobody seems to be taking the &#039;you can leave nothing as a tip if the service is horrible&#039; position.  (Not that I blame them; it&#039;s bad enough to insult one waitress, I wouldn&#039;t want to have every waiter, waitress, and other restaurant worker (to say nothing of everyone who used to work in a restaurant, which seems like most of the population) to plot revenge against me.)  Here&#039;s hoping this post inspires people to be a bit more generous with their tipping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Monevator: I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever heard tipping compared to capitalism at large, although as you say, they do have some similar characteristics.  I&#8217;m not really sure how tipping caught on (my research for this entry revealed that &#8216;gratuity&#8217; means &#8216;for the bartender&#8217; or something similar, indicating that the practice started in taverns, but how and why it spread to restaurants (and beyond) is still a mystery to me).  There is quite a discrepancy between various locales and how much you&#8217;re expected to tip, that much is true.</p>
<p>@1milchallenge: I&#8217;m definitely envious of your non-tipping culture; I&#8217;d be much happier (albeit, with a bit less to write about) if tipping weren&#8217;t part of the culture here in the US.  If you are in the US, you get used to calculating the tip in most of the common tipping situations (or find guides to how much to tip are pretty common).</p>
<p>@Jackie: It does seem to be all but assumed that you will leave a tip, as part of the cost of going out.  You&#8217;re like me; I try to tip better (in excess of fifteen percent or so) if the service is great, and I have a personal rule about leaving at least three dollars for a tip, even it means giving a thirty percent tip on a low cost meal.</p>
<p>@PureFi: That seems to be the consensus view; nobody seems to be taking the &#8216;you can leave nothing as a tip if the service is horrible&#8217; position.  (Not that I blame them; it&#8217;s bad enough to insult one waitress, I wouldn&#8217;t want to have every waiter, waitress, and other restaurant worker (to say nothing of everyone who used to work in a restaurant, which seems like most of the population) to plot revenge against me.)  Here&#8217;s hoping this post inspires people to be a bit more generous with their tipping.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 00:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve worked in restaurants before, so I know how much work it is and don&#039;t mind tipping waitstaff well.  But I&#039;m having a harder time trying to remember who to give Christmas gifts to since even the mail carrier is supposed to get one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve worked in restaurants before, so I know how much work it is and don&#8217;t mind tipping waitstaff well.  But I&#8217;m having a harder time trying to remember who to give Christmas gifts to since even the mail carrier is supposed to get one!</p>
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		<title>By: PureFi</title>
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		<dc:creator>PureFi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that tipping is just part of eating out. Talking to the management is the only way to really effect change. Punishing a waiter for something that may not be their fault isn&#039;t cool. If you have ever waited tables you know it isn&#039;t a cakewalk, and restaurant management tends to be poor except in high-end restaurants. Grateful I don&#039;t have to depend on tips to make a living anymore.
.-= PureFi´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://purefi.com/2010/05/23/easier-on-the-pocketbook-pets/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Easier on the Pocketbook Pets&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that tipping is just part of eating out. Talking to the management is the only way to really effect change. Punishing a waiter for something that may not be their fault isn&#8217;t cool. If you have ever waited tables you know it isn&#8217;t a cakewalk, and restaurant management tends to be poor except in high-end restaurants. Grateful I don&#8217;t have to depend on tips to make a living anymore.<br />
.-= PureFi´s last blog ..<a href="http://purefi.com/2010/05/23/easier-on-the-pocketbook-pets/" rel="nofollow">Easier on the Pocketbook Pets</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 16:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would never not leave a tip when eating out in America, so I guess that I tip here because I view it as part of the cost of dining out at a full service restaurant. I do tip better for better service though, or if I buy an extremely low cost meal where the bill is under $10 total.
.-= Jackie´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.moneycrush.com/straying-from-the-path-of-intention-to-impulse/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Straying from the Path of Intention to Impulse&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would never not leave a tip when eating out in America, so I guess that I tip here because I view it as part of the cost of dining out at a full service restaurant. I do tip better for better service though, or if I buy an extremely low cost meal where the bill is under $10 total.<br />
.-= Jackie´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.moneycrush.com/straying-from-the-path-of-intention-to-impulse/" rel="nofollow">Straying from the Path of Intention to Impulse</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: 1milchallenge</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 05:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad I live in Aus where for the most part we just don&#039;t tip and never have. It&#039;s a lot less stressful Some of the rancy restaraunts have taken to requesting tips, but on the most part, it is just not part of our culture. 

We do tip for exceptional service if we want to, but no one expects you to.

It did do my head in when we visited the USA as to what amount to tip. It woudl be hard knowing how much to tip all the time.
.-= 1milchallenge´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/1MillionDollarChallenge/~3/J8-y4TRLdOc/what-sellers-should-do-from-buyers.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What sellers should do from a buyers point of view&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad I live in Aus where for the most part we just don&#8217;t tip and never have. It&#8217;s a lot less stressful Some of the rancy restaraunts have taken to requesting tips, but on the most part, it is just not part of our culture. </p>
<p>We do tip for exceptional service if we want to, but no one expects you to.</p>
<p>It did do my head in when we visited the USA as to what amount to tip. It woudl be hard knowing how much to tip all the time.<br />
.-= 1milchallenge´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/1MillionDollarChallenge/~3/J8-y4TRLdOc/what-sellers-should-do-from-buyers.html" rel="nofollow">What sellers should do from a buyers point of view</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekend Wrap-Up: Memorial Day Yakezie Update Edition @ Beating Broke</title>
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		<title>By: Monevator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monevator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 11:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tipping is a bit like capitalism - horribly imperfect, but impossible to get rid of.

Say the convention disappeared tomorrow. Someone rich would start giving a little extra and we&#039;d be off again.

Then again, some tipping doesn&#039;t seem to &#039;catch&#039;. I hated having to tip anyone who went near my bags in the US when I was a callow 20-something - here in the UK we&#039;d never tip hotel staff like that. And yet we do tip waiting staff.
.-= Monevator´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Monevatorcom/~3/Ujb1zP72spA/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Weekend reading: Revolting taxes&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tipping is a bit like capitalism &#8211; horribly imperfect, but impossible to get rid of.</p>
<p>Say the convention disappeared tomorrow. Someone rich would start giving a little extra and we&#8217;d be off again.</p>
<p>Then again, some tipping doesn&#8217;t seem to &#8216;catch&#8217;. I hated having to tip anyone who went near my bags in the US when I was a callow 20-something &#8211; here in the UK we&#8217;d never tip hotel staff like that. And yet we do tip waiting staff.<br />
.-= Monevator´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Monevatorcom/~3/Ujb1zP72spA/" rel="nofollow">Weekend reading: Revolting taxes</a> =-.</p>
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